DC Universe relaunch in September 2011

jonah · Post by **jonah** » Sun Jun 12, 2011 6:57 am

HassanT wrote:
Exactly. There will be minor changes for the Batman and Green Lantern books, but larger changes for the rest of the line as they have not sold as well over the past few years.

Not sure how batman can have minor changes given that he effects a number of other books ... but regardless, I don't mind changes, even big changes. However if DC is thinking of ignoring their history, I believe they are doing themselves a great injustice. A DC world without a Golden age isn't as rich and I feel less compelling to explore. Maybe I'm a minority, but it's really hard to ignore things that have gone before. Revisionist history has always kinda ... sucked ... in comics as well as in real life.

HassanT · Post by **HassanT** » Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:10 am

My oldest daughter is 10 years old, about the same age that I started to read comics on a regular basis. She reads a few monthly titles today, but I might introduce her to main DCU with this reboot. BTW, her Batgirl is already Barbara Gordon because of the Batman cartoon.

Another interesting note, both of my daughters always felt that the old Wonder Woman costume was "inappropriate" for a hero. "Daddy, why is wearing a swimming suit to fight bad guys?"

Of course, I would read any comic book from the main DCU line before I give them to my daughter just to make sure they are appropriate.

HassanT · Post by **HassanT** » Sun Jun 12, 2011 7:13 am

jonah wrote:
HassanT wrote:
Exactly. There will be minor changes for the Batman and Green Lantern books, but larger changes for the rest of the line as they have not sold as well over the past few years.
Not sure how batman can have minor changes given that he effects a number of other books ... but regardless, I don't mind changes, even big changes. However if DC is thinking of ignoring their history, I believe they are doing themselves a great injustice. A DC world without a Golden age isn't as rich and I feel less compelling to explore. Maybe I'm a minority, but it's really hard to ignore things that have gone before. Revisionist history has always kinda ... sucked ... in comics as well as in real life.

By them ignoring it, at least for now, it doesn't mean it didn't happen. However, telling stories about a whole bunch of guys in the 80s probably doesn't appeal to a younger audience.

On the plus side, we won't be seeing that horrible new Alan Scott costume anymore.

jonah · Post by **jonah** » Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:00 am

HassanT wrote:
By them ignoring it, at least for now, it doesn't mean it didn't happen. However, telling stories about a whole bunch of guys in the 80s probably doesn't appeal to a younger audience.

On the plus side, we won't be seeing that horrible new Alan Scott costume anymore.

Only problem I see with that is I think the majority, not sure how much of a majority, tends NOT to be a younger audience i.e. it's older folk like me. While comic companies need to attract younger readers they'd be foolish to alienate a large body of their current readers.

And maybe they won't. We still don't know a lot of the details of this renumbering. Do they stop at 52 books ? Release x number of mini-series maybe with stories about heroes who have been forgotten ? Go back to old school JSA annual appearances in the JLA books ? Don't know but given the track record of previous relaunches at the big two companies, they usually come back to their status quo eventually.

And yeah, hope never to see that new Alan Scott outfit. Not crazy about the new Hawkman or Mr. Terrific redesigns either but I do tend to be a 'stick in the mud' when it comes to the traditional uniforms.

HassanT · Post by **HassanT** » Sun Jun 12, 2011 8:40 am

HassanT wrote: The first story arc of Justice League takes place in the past and is the new origin of the team. The second arc will jump ahead to current time. I wouldn't be surprised if Morrison's first issue of Action takes place over a few years as well.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/06/11/ ... age-in-la/

George Perez stated that he is doing layouts for Superman with Jesus Merino as finisher. That is awesome. Jesus Merino is a great artist on his own but used to be Carlos Pacheco's inker. And to be honest, Carlos Pacheco's art hasn't looked the same since Merino went on his own.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/06/11/ ... -tomorrow/

Confirmation that the first story in Action takes place in the past. Also the time passage between the formation of the JL and the present is five years.

http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2011/06/ ... t=63378#/0

BobBretall · Post by **BobBretall** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:11 am

I added the "real' cover for Frankenstein and the GL Corps covers to the DCnU sticky-post.

I also added in some links to creators talking about some of the books.

Paul Nolan · Post by **Paul Nolan** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:14 am

There's a hefty interview with Scott Lobdell at Bleeding Cool

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/06/13/ ... ding-cool/

it says a non dcu character (Wildstorm or Milestone) will be in Teen Titans.

BobBretall · Post by **BobBretall** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:20 am

Paul Nolan wrote:There's a hefty interview with Scott Lobdell at Bleeding Cool

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/06/13/ ... ding-cool/

it says a non dcu character (Wildstorm or Milestone) will be in Teen Titans.

It's a good interview. I added it to the DCnU thread earlier.....

BobBretall · Post by **BobBretall** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:09 pm

jonah wrote: Surprised at some titles that missed the cut. Particularly JSA.

Didio says:

As for JSA, we have decided to rest this concept while we devote our attention on the launch of the three new Justice League series.

http://blog.newsarama.com/2011/06/13/da ... -rest-jsa/

BobBretall · Post by **BobBretall** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:11 pm

Interesting interview with Judd Winick about Batwing series:
http://www.newsarama.com/comics/dcnu-ju ... 10613.html

Martial · Post by **Martial** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:55 pm

Still awaiting to see the DCBS price for the combo before making a commitment to physical vs physical+e-copy

A question I have: is the Superman reboot going to modify the new superman to be different enough from the Siegel lawsuit ?

boshuda · Post by **boshuda** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 6:33 am

BobBretall wrote:
Paul Nolan wrote:There's a hefty interview with Scott Lobdell at Bleeding Cool

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/06/13/ ... ding-cool/

it says a non dcu character (Wildstorm or Milestone) will be in Teen Titans.
It's a good interview. I added it to the DCnU thread earlier.....

I was possibly going to skip Teen Titans - but this interview makes me excited to read it. His explanation of Red Robin - too cool!

BobBretall · Post by **BobBretall** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:29 am

Martial wrote:Still awaiting to see the DCBS price for the combo before making a commitment to physical vs physical+e-copy

Maybe there will be something different in the actual Diamond solicits, but the on-line solicits only mention a physical/digital combo pack for Justice League #1, not for any of the other books.

Martial wrote: A question I have: is the Superman reboot going to modify the new superman to be different enough from the Siegel lawsuit ?

No amount of modification will let them evade an existing lawsuit as long as the character is called "Superman" and is an evolution of the character by Siegel/Shuster.

My prediction is that in the end, after bleeding Siegel's family with legal fees and court delays for years, Warner Bros. will end up giving them whatever $$ they have to to settle the suit.

jonah · Post by **jonah** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:41 am

One casualty from this relaunch appears to be the loss of Bryan Q Miller on any of the new books. Hopefully DC has some projects with his name on it. His Batgirl was really a good comic.

BobBretall · Post by **BobBretall** » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:04 am

Fabian Nicieza talks about "Legion Lost":
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page ... e&id=32778

www.ComicBookPage.com

DC Universe relaunch in September 2011

Teen Titans is now on my list