Robin, Nightwing, and Birds of Prey to end in February

HassanT · Post by **HassanT** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:21 pm

I am getting a bad vibe on the direction of DC Comics from that interview. The Vigilante is part of the "Titans" line of books. Please don't let DC do what they (and Marvel) did in 90s, a whole bunch of isolated group titles.

BobBretall · Post by **BobBretall** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 9:10 pm

Another hit to the "DC Goodwill bank"

From Dan DiDildo's Newsarama interview:

What you’re going to see in the DC Universe, in February, is that we’re doing the “Origins and Omens” in the back that I talked about last time. They’ll be running in somewhere around 19 titles that month. In those, there’s a single narrator – a rogue Guardian called Scar. Scar will be very prominent in Blackest Night for all the events in that story and will bring together the sensibility of the “Origins and Omens” are together, and will also be leaving clues that will be played out in the Blackest Night miniseries in the latter half of the year.

This is the exact kind of thing I hate. Having a storyline drag (even as a backup) through 19 titles so that you cannot get the entire thing without buying almost the entire DC line.

I'm NOT going to be buying anything I don't normally buy just to get a piece of Origins & Omens. Hopefully each part will somewhat stand on it's own merits.

Koete · Post by **Koete** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 11:12 pm

JLAFan wrote:Another hit to the "DC Goodwill bank"

From Dan DiDildo's Newsarama interview:
What you’re going to see in the DC Universe, in February, is that we’re doing the “Origins and Omens” in the back that I talked about last time. They’ll be running in somewhere around 19 titles that month. In those, there’s a single narrator – a rogue Guardian called Scar. Scar will be very prominent in Blackest Night for all the events in that story and will bring together the sensibility of the “Origins and Omens” are together, and will also be leaving clues that will be played out in the Blackest Night miniseries in the latter half of the year.
This is the exact kind of thing I hate. Having a storyline drag (even as a backup) through 19 titles so that you cannot get the entire thing without buying almost the entire DC line.

I'm NOT going to be buying anything I don't normally buy just to get a piece of Origins & Omens. Hopefully each part will somewhat stand on it's own merits.

Well Marvel collected the "Endangered Species" back up storyline that went through the X-books, let's hope DC does the same with this.

Post by **JohnMayo** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 9:37 am

Koete wrote: http://www.newsarama.com/comics/110812-Didio2.html

Good interview. Didio answered a lot of questions in a very informative and straight forward manner. Thanks for posting the link...

BobBretall · Post by **BobBretall** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:33 am

Koete wrote: Well Marvel collected the "Endangered Species" back up storyline that went through the X-books, let's hope DC does the same with this.

Did they? I must have missed that. Did it come out as a trade or as a big comic? How much was it?

Post by **JohnMayo** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:45 am

JLAFan wrote:
Koete wrote: Well Marvel collected the "Endangered Species" back up storyline that went through the X-books, let's hope DC does the same with this.
Did they? I must have missed that. Did it come out as a trade or as a big comic? How much was it?

The X-Men: Endangered Species trade paperback (MAY082370) was released on 7/23/2008. The hardcover (NOV072207) was released on 1/30/2008.

FYI, for this sort of thing, I've got a search function for the Diamond shipping lists here.

I don't update it as often as I should but try to do so every month or two.

BobBretall · Post by **BobBretall** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:02 am

Ah, I thought he meant JUST the back-up story had been collected (which is why I was surprised). I knew the whole thing had been collected in a trade.

To me, collecting the backup as part of a $20 trade that also includes any issues from the crossover that I bought (requiring me to buy that content again) sort of defeats the purpose.

So, back to the DC "Omens" thing, unless those backup stories are collected in a trade that is JUST the backups, it's worthless to me. And, even then, if I already have 50% of the backups from titles I already bought, do I really want to buy a trade where I already have half the material?

Post by **JohnMayo** » Thu Nov 13, 2008 11:15 am

JLAFan wrote:Ah, I thought he meant JUST the back-up story had been collected (which is why I was surprised). I knew the whole thing had been collected in a trade.

To me, collecting the backup as part of a $20 trade that also includes any issues from the crossover that I bought (requiring me to buy that content again) sort of defeats the purpose.

So, back to the DC "Omens" thing, unless those backup stories are collected in a trade that is JUST the backups, it's worthless to me. And, even then, if I already have 50% of the backups from titles I already bought, do I really want to buy a trade where I already have half the material?

Endangered Species was just the backup features. The trade is only 192 pages and only contains the Endangered Species one shot and the backups that were serialized across the various comics.

I see your point about not wanting to buy duplicate material. With Omens, shy of not serializing stories across comics (which is clearly a marketing ploy), there doesn't really isn't a solution that would be acceptable to you.

The question for the publisher then becomes does the loss of the sale of the trade to you (and others like you) get compensated for by the people that will either get the trade and/or get the various issues that the story is serialized in. Odds are that serializing the story will have more a more positive than negative impact overall.

X-MEN: ENDANGERED SPECIES TPB
Written by MIKE CAREY,
CHRISTOS N. GAGE &
CHRISTOPHER YOST
Penciled by SCOT EATON,
MARK BAGLEY, MIKE PERKINS &
ANDREA DIVITO
Cover by MARC SILVESTRI
“No More Mutants.” They say words can never hurt you. But they never met Wanda Maximoff. At the height of her madness during the crisis known as M Day, the Scarlet Witch uttered those three little words that obliterated nearly the entire species of mutants, consigning them to the dustbin of Darwin’s evolution. Following in the wake of DECIMATION, and setting up the final showdown with fate in the X-Men event MESSIAH COMPLEX, ENDANGERED SPECIES finds the Beast in a race against the clock to see what he can do to save the destiny of his fellow mutants before time runs out. Alone and with the future in his hands, can he stumble upon the key that will bring about a positive change, or will a species now endangered be headed irrevocably for extinction? Collecting the story originally serialized in the X-MEN: ENDANGERED SPECIES one-shot X-MEN #200-204, UNCANNY X-MEN #488-491, X-FACTOR #21-23 and NEW X-MEN #40-42.
192 PGS./Rated T+ …$19.99
ISBN: 978-0-7851-2820-5