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Tom Brevoort, senior vice president for publishing at Marvel, said the new "NOW!" series aren't about relaunching characters with new origins or back stories but about shaking up the characters with new writers and artists.
"...and it's about relaunching them with new #1s to temporarily increase our sales. And just because we're doing an almost line-wide relaunch a year or so after DC did it and got monster sales, that doesn't mean we're following suit. No no no sir, complete coincidence."
This statement of his doesn't necessarily read like a dig, he's just pointing out the difference. But I've seen the other comments in the past about how Marvel isn't going to throw s**t against the wall to see what works, so I know his comment up there had a negative angle in his mind.
Wouldn't it make more sense to talk about the DC relaunch with an angle to maybe bring those people in too? "Any readers who tried the DC relaunch and found it great will now have a lot of titles at Marvel to try out and we think the quality of our product outmatches theirs."
But this is America after all. The best way to say your product is great is by saying the opponent's product sucks.
Tom Brevoort, senior vice president for publishing at Marvel, said the new "NOW!" series aren't about relaunching characters with new origins or back stories but about shaking up the characters with new writers and artists.
This statement of his doesn't necessarily read like a dig, he's just pointing out the difference. But I've seen the other comments in the past about how Marvel isn't going to throw s**t against the wall to see what works, so I know his comment up there had a negative angle in his mind.
He really doesn't need to make the comparison at all.
Just sell them on the strength of the creative teams & new concepts.
Of course, McKelvie hasn't always been a strictly monthly artist, so Gillen chose a second artist known for his awesome young hero action, Mike Norton, to work with him, handling backgrounds, making this a true "team" known for their work with teen heroes, working on this team of teen heroes.
This is interesting. I wonder if it means they'll also be able to keep up with the 18 issues a year that seem to result from Marvel's love of double-shipping or if we'll get fill-in arcs from some other art team too.
The core team will start with Wiccan, Hulkling, Kid Loki, Chavez, Hawkeye (Kate, of course), and Noh-Varr, Marvel Boy. Hulkling, Marvel Boy, and Miss America have redesigns courtesy of McKelvie.
The wall-crawling superhero and Marvel Comics icon is the natural star of the brand-new Superior Spider-Man series launching in January as part of the "Marvel NOW!" initiative. It replaces Amazing Spider-Man in the lineup following a landmark 700th issue out Dec. 26.
However, this "enormous" change is an all-new development for the decades-old character and will result in a far darker Spider-Man than fans have ever seen, promises Dan Slott, the Amazing Spider-Man writer who's heading up Superior Spider-Man. "The one thing that does not go with this Spider-Man is the term 'Friendly neighborhood.' No. That's gone.
A "darker" Spider-Man does not sound particularly appealing to me. Even though it's been pointed out he's been in dark stories before that was never the raison d'etre (or mission statement) for the character, as it now seems to be moving to.
The wall-crawling superhero and Marvel Comics icon is the natural star of the brand-new Superior Spider-Man series launching in January as part of the "Marvel NOW!" initiative. It replaces Amazing Spider-Man in the lineup following a landmark 700th issue out Dec. 26.
However, this "enormous" change is an all-new development for the decades-old character and will result in a far darker Spider-Man than fans have ever seen, promises Dan Slott, the Amazing Spider-Man writer who's heading up Superior Spider-Man. "The one thing that does not go with this Spider-Man is the term 'Friendly neighborhood.' No. That's gone.
A "darker" Spider-Man does not sound particularly appealing to me. Even though it's been pointed out he's been in dark stories before that was never the raison d'etre (or mission statement) for the character, as it now seems to be moving to.
I like the art, but I can see how it wouldn't be appealing to some.
I agree with you about Spidey. A big part of his appeal is that even when his world gets dark, it's not really dark. The darkness is fleeting and exists mostly to provide a sharp contrast to the brightness. I feel like if they go down too dark of a path with Spider-Man it will be really difficult to come back from.
I hope this is just marketing speak. A lot of his stories in the past do get dark, but it never feels 'grim and gritty' or anything. Spider-Man feels like it has a tone of its own and it works with his particular brand of crime fighting.
I would say JMS's run was dark, and how did it end? Reboot of sorts. They still haven't really explained where Peter's totem powers went
But isn't this what happened to Daredevil awhile ago? It got really dark and morbid and it took Waid bringing it back to more light stories for sales to return? I'm not a big DD fan so I'm not sure.
I'll get Superior because it's Spider-man but I don't feel any need for darker stories, just good ones.
BobBretall wrote:A "darker" Spider-Man does not sound particularly appealing to me. Even though it's been pointed out he's been in dark stories before that was never the raison d'etre (or mission statement) for the character, as it now seems to be moving to.
I grew up on Marvel Characters and have not been entirely thrilled with how Marvel has been reacting to the Distinguished Competitiion.
Spider-Man is "Amazing", Iron Man is "Invincible" and the Hulk is "Incredible" and so on. "Superior" "darker" Spider-Man really? Although, I missed most of the 1980 comic books, have we not been down the 'darker' road before?
That Ain't Peter
Writer Dan Slott teased a few more Superior Spider-Man details during a retailer breakfast held at the start of New York Comic Con. Marvel Comics has confirmed that Slott told retailers in attendance that the Spider-Man starring in the January-debuting series is indeed a character other than Peter Parker, and that Spider-Man and Mary Jane would be getting back together — which would mean that Peter and MJ will not be.
That Ain't Peter
Writer Dan Slott teased a few more Superior Spider-Man details during a retailer breakfast held at the start of New York Comic Con. Marvel Comics has confirmed that Slott told retailers in attendance that the Spider-Man starring in the January-debuting series is indeed a character other than Peter Parker, and that Spider-Man and Mary Jane would be getting back together — which would mean that Peter and MJ will not be.
Makes me wonder if it Miles Morales of the 616 universe will become the Superior Spider-Man.
My theory is Ock finds out Peter is Spider-man [that much at least is in solicits], threatens Aunt May or does something, Peter is forced to kill Ock to protect Aunt May and it's the final pay off to this whole silly "No one dies" thing.
I mean, that's something that has never been done before, Peter has never intentionally killed a villain, or killed with malice maybe.
Anyway, after that he decides he can't be Spider-man anymore and that's all that was keeping him from MJ.
The big problem with this idea .... who the hell is Spider-man then? I can't think of one person it could be that I would care about, especially since we have Scarlet Spider as a separate title.
But don't worry, Peter will be back as Spider-man in time for the movie sequel, or Superior Spider-man #50 aka Amazing 750.
abysslord wrote:
Anyway, after that he decides he can't be Spider-man anymore and that's all that was keeping him from MJ.
But:
Spider-Man and Mary Jane would be getting back together — which would mean that Peter and MJ will not be.
So it's not Peter & MJ getting together...... This would also call the Miles Morales angle into question unless MJ has decided she wants to go out with a teenage boy.
abysslord wrote:
But don't worry, Peter will be back as Spider-man in time for the movie sequel, or Superior Spider-man #50 aka Amazing 750.
Of this I have no doubt. My only question is whether I support this off the rack or just $1 bin dive for the issues in a year or 2. I'm leaning towards the latter.
This one looks like an good introduction to the character for the "man on the street". Stuff like references to Extremis is thrown in that is different from Iron Man in the movies, but Gillen figures out how to explain it as part of the story, so kudos to him.
New reader friendly, I like that!
It doesn't look like a book that I need to buy for $3.99, though.
BobBretall wrote:This would also call the Miles Morales angle into question unless MJ has decided she wants to go out with a teenage boy.
We don't know anything about the 616 version of Miles Morales. He could be older than the Ultimate Comics version. For all we know, he could be a clone of Peter Parker.
really? Although, I missed most of the 1980 comic books, have we not been down the 'darker' road before?