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HassanT wrote:Justice League #1- I thought the first issue was pretty good. It was fun and entertaining. I agree that it moved a bit slow, but then I also felt that since this is supposed to be the first time these heroes meet, Johns probably wanted to spend more time on character interaction and not just the plot. I thought the dialogue was great. I laughed out loud a couple times reading the interaction between Green Lantern and Batman.
As for the art, I am still a big Jim Lee fan and I thought it was incredible.
Agreed. I don't even think it was slow, there was action in the beginning and end, and the middle was information building ... all the while we get to see these two interact and how this team will be built.
I guess the complainers wanted a balls-to-the-wall story in the first issue? I much prefer this style.
Vescell#1 (Image) - Bob, has already done a review before so I will keep my mini review keep the plot out of my review. Overall, I liked what I got from the book. The book is a dense read. The book was split in two parts, and both parts felt like you were getting more story than entire issues of some books. The dialog is kind of wordy as Bob brought up in his review. It felt like they were trying to get every idea out the creators ever had out at once in case they never get this opportunity again.
I liked the art it reminded me a lot of the art from Joe Kelly's Bad Dog series. The artist share a similar style, and the coloring is similar.
spid wrote:Vescell#1 (Image) - Bob, has already done a review before so I will keep my mini review keep the plot out of my review. Overall, I liked what I got from the book. The book is a dense read. The book was split in two parts, and both parts felt like you were getting more story than entire issues of some books. The dialog is kind of wordy as Bob brought up in his review. It felt like they were trying to get every idea out the creators ever had out at once in case they never get this opportunity again.
I liked the art it reminded me a lot of the art from Joe Kelly's Bad Dog series. The artist share a similar style, and the coloring is similar.
Agreed, I liked the book and the ideas were pretty good. Nothing new, but mixing everything together into one story was nice and actually done well for a first issue. I mean, how many genre things were in here? So it did read heavy, but that's not necessarily a bad thing ... makes you feel like you got your money's worth.
The Rinse #1 (Boom) Bob, conducted an interview with the writer a month or two ago for a Preview Spotlight so if you want an in depth preview look for it on the site. I liked the book. The art is step beyond just serviceable, but I do not think it would win any awards.
The story is a familiar crime caper/story setup. The difference is instead starring a hard nose police detective, private investigator, or low wise guy this show is based around the guy who launders crooked money. The twist is a good one because I do not know of many stories based around this element of the criminal enterprise. My only gripe is really not fair, and I will admit it up front. I would have liked to have more focus on the money laundering part. The plot takes a more traditional switch to a typical crime story. This is not a bad thing, but I think I was looking for more of the business side of moving the money.
Batgir #1 This was a really great first issue. It did a perfect job of setting up what this book will be able. It does it's job establishing the new status quo, who Barbra Gordan is, her new life with new friends, and a new villain.But also what was done well was the parts of the story where she was Batgirl kicking all kinds of butt. This is by far my favorite new 52 titles.
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Action Comics I did not enjoy this book at all, It was a total let down. This book has a fun gold/silver age vibe to it, but I was not feeling the Anti-establishment Big Corporations vs The Little Guy attitude from Supes. I will not continue with this book.
GABE! wrote:Action Comics I did not enjoy this book at all, It was a total let down. This book has a fun gold/silver age vibe to it, but I was not feeling the Anti-establishment Big Corporations vs The Little Guy attitude from Supes. I will not continue with this book.
This is interesting to me & something we've talked about on the show a number of times:
Your expectation for what a comic should be prior to it's arrival VS. what it actually ends up being.
For Action, I'm assuming you got the impression that it was going to have a strong Superman championing people against evil corporations from all the interviews & articles in the comics press & Grant Morrison spouting off (seemingly more in support of his Supergods book than in support of this specific comic).
Had you not gotten this strong expectation set would you have had such a strong negative reaction to what you perceived as "a fun gold/silver age vibe"???
BobBretall wrote:
This is interesting to me & something we've talked about on the show a number of times:
Your expectation for what a comic should be prior to it's arrival VS. what it actually ends up being.
For Action, I'm assuming you got the impression that it was going to have a strong Superman championing people against evil corporations from all the interviews & articles in the comics press & Grant Morrison spouting off (seemingly more in support of his Supergods book than in support of this specific comic).
Had you not gotten this strong expectation set would you have had such a strong negative reaction to what you perceived as "a fun gold/silver age vibe"???
I didn't read any of the press releases or interviews before the issue came out, so I didn't have any expectations before I opened Action comics #1. I don't want to get too much into the story or spoil anything, but I did enjoyed the Peter Parker-ish Clark. I would have preferred more of that then the over brooding politics.
GABE! wrote:
I didn't read any of the press releases or interviews before the issue came out, so I didn't have any expectations before I opened Action comics #1. I don't want to get too much into the story or spoil anything, but I did enjoyed the Peter Parker-ish Clark. I would have preferred more of that then the over brooding politics.
So, out of curiosity, when you said:
GABE wrote:I was not feeling the Anti-establishment Big Corporations vs The Little Guy attitude from Supes.
Where did you get the desire to see that particular attitude from Superman? Other than being anti-Luthor, Superman has never been particularly anti-establishment, has he?
GABE! wrote:Batgir #1 This was a really great first issue. It did a perfect job of setting up what this book will be able. It does it's job establishing the new status quo, who Barbra Gordan is, her new life with new friends, and a new villain.But also what was done well was the parts of the story where she was Batgirl kicking all kinds of butt. This is by far my favorite new 52 titles.
I'm afraid I have to disagree a bit with this. I'm on the fence about continuing Batgirl even though I was anxiously awaiting it originally. I feel like they didn't really reboot this title like they did many of the others. Barbara is still the same, just suddenly she got over her injury. I could easily have seen them doing this in the previous DC universe. I'm going to give this another issue or two in the hopes it will improve, but this is one of the #1s that missed the mark for me.
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BobBretall wrote:
So, out of curiosity, when you said:
GABE wrote:I was not feeling the Anti-establishment Big Corporations vs The Little Guy attitude from Supes.
Where did you get the desire to see that particular attitude from Superman? Other than being anti-Luthor, Superman has never been particularly anti-establishment, has he?
Sorry. When I said I wasn't "feeling it" it meant "I didn't like that Superman is NOW anti-establishment in the DCnU"
The first scene of the book, Superman forces a corporate Excutive to admit to shaddy work ethics by dropping him off a building.
GABE! wrote:
Sorry. When I said I wasn't "feeling it" it meant "I didn't like that Superman is NOW anti-establishment in the DCnU"
The first scene of the book, Superman forces a corporate Excutive to admit to shaddy work ethics by dropping him off a building.
Ah, sorry for missing the nuance of slang there.
So it sounds like Morrison lived up to what he's been saying he'd be doing in interviews & you don't like it. Understood.
(I don't get this batch of #1s until next Tuesday, so have not read the book in question).
Danscomics wrote:
I feel like they didn't really reboot this title like they did many of the others. Barbara is still the same, just suddenly she got over her injury. I could easily have seen them doing this in the previous DC universe.
To be fair to DC, they have said time & again that this is not a reboot and that a lot of titles (especially in the top-selling Batman & GL families) would be experiencing very little by way of radical change.
In the "regular DCU" people have been saying for years that Barb could get fixed up any time she wanted to. The tech exists & it was more of a mental thing that she didn't WANT to get fixed before.
I'd expect this change of mental attitude to be something Gail Simone explores over the next several months (at a minimum).
Danscomics wrote:
I'm afraid I have to disagree a bit with this. I'm on the fence about continuing Batgirl even though I was anxiously awaiting it originally. I feel like they didn't really reboot this title like they did many of the others. Barbara is still the same, just suddenly she got over her injury. I could easily have seen them doing this in the previous DC universe. I'm going to give this another issue or two in the hopes it will improve, but this is one of the #1s that missed the mark for me.
That's how I felt about JLI. I liked it as a fun super hero team comic, but I'm lost on whether or not the book is "rebooted." There is very little information on the characters' origins. Is Booster still from the future? Where is this book take place during the new continuity? The world seems to accept heroes and even allows Batman into the UN
Detective Comics #1: I was tempted to give this a yellow for the artwork, which wasn't bad, but the writing was so clunky, so "bad Frank Miller", that I just couldn't bring myself to. I did think the last page was an interesting and shocking way to show us just how crazy the Joker is, plus it was a nice (if grisly) drawing. Fortunately for me I was able to sell this on Ebay for $7 literally seconds after I finished reading it. I used to keep everything, but these days I'm too broke not to sell things if I have no desire to continue with them or read them again.